Nathan
Marquardt is already one of the most accomplished fighters in MMA,
and he's only 22 years old. On September 24, 2000, Marquardt
defeated Shonie Carter to be crowned the first middleweight King of
Pancrase. No one in the history of the organization had done it
faster-it took him only nine months. On top of that, he was the
youngest to win the coveted crown, shared by Ken Shamrock, Frank
Shamrock, Bas Rutten and Guy Mezger. At only 21 years and 5 months
old, Marquardt captured the title four months younger than KOP
heavyweight Yuki Kondo.
Marquardt went back to
Japan in October to defend his belt for the second time. After
wearing down his opponent with some good displays of striking and
wrestling, Marquardt defeated 4th ranked Pancrase challenger Yuji
Hoshino with a triangle choke in the third round. Marquardt stayed
in Japan to train for his fight one month later against Kiuma
Kunioku, whom he had beaten by decision twice before. Despite
showing improved standup techniques and fighting an evenly matched
ground battle, it wasn't enough. After three rounds the judges gave
the fight to Kinioku in a 2-0-1 decision. Though it was his second
loss in a major title fight (after losing to Gil Castillo in the
IFC), the judging once again came under more fire than Marquardt's
performance.
Energized
by his recent losses, "Nate the Great" (a nickname given
to him by a former girlfriend) is ready to prove that he is still
the #1 middleweight in Pancrase and has what it takes to be the #1
middleweight in the world.
UA: Tell us about
your background and family.
NM: I've lived in
Colorado since I was 8. Before that I lived near Chicago and in
Indiana. I was born in Wyoming. My mom is a manager at an attorney's
office and my dad does construction. My older brother was an f-16
pilot, now he instructs other jet fighters. I have two older
sisters, one works for a newspaper in Colorado Springs, and I have a
younger sister too.
UA: When did you
start training in martial arts?
NM: I was 16 years
old and I trained in kenpo and shootfighting under Alistair McNiven.
UA: When did you
start training at Colorado Stars?
NM: I started
training at Stars about three years ago.
UA: Ron Waterman,
Larry Parker, Duane Ludwig and yourself all fight out of Colorado
Stars. What is the secret with a relatively small gym in a small
town producing so many good fighters?
NM: Me! (laughs) It
was more like we all came together at Stars. Now we're in the
process of producing some good fighters. When I first started training I wanted to know where
the best place to grapple was . . . I think Ron and Larry were
already training together. I'd seen Larry in jiu-jitsu and wrestling
and I thought he was really good, so I started to go train with
them. I trained kickboxing with Duane and when he decided to start
grappling, he came to Stars as well. We all pushed each other to
become better fighters [with] better techniques.
UA: When was your
first fight?
NM: I think I was 18,
it was right before I came to Stars. I fought in California. I'd
been training for a while and I had won a bunch of jiu-jitsu
tournaments. I never thought about fighting but my instructor urged
me to compete. There was another one of my teammates who was going
to fight as well, so we trained together.
UA: When did your
career as a professional fighter begin?
NM: I never planned
to fight professionally until I won the Bas Rutten Invitational and
Will Hendricks picked me up. He got me a fight in Pancrase and it
wasn't until after I fought there, that I really had the drive to
fight.
UA: When did you
start fighting full time?
NM: It wasn't until
this year that I started fighting full time. When I fought my first
fight in Pancrase I was still going to school, I had a girlfriend,
and I was working full time. I was doing too many things so I left
school, and when I made enough money, I quit my job and made this my
full time job.
UA: How did your
parents react to your decision to be a professional fighter?
NM: They were fine
with it. It was more when I started fighting that they didn't like
it. The decision was gradual so they understood.
UA: Tell us about
your conditioning training and diet?
NM: To get my
physical body ready, I start several things six weeks before the
fight date. I run five times a week, lift weights three-to-four
times a week, do callisthenic and strength training three times per
week, spar and drill technique six days a week, and stretch
everyday. With all this training, rest and diet are very important.
I usually sleep 10 hours a day and rest on Sunday. I eat five-to-six
times a day and drink a lot of fluids. Meals always consist of a
large amount of protein and also carbs and fats. I usually get my
protein from tuna, chicken or beef and get my carbs from rice,
fruits, and pasta. I drink protein shakes a few times a day to
supplement my diet. Also, when I am preparing for a fight, I don't
drink any alcohol as it will affect training on the days and weeks
following.
UA: How did you become the first middleweight King of Pancrase?
NM: It was last year,
the first fight was one night; the semi finals and finals were
another night. My first fight I beat Daiju Takase by KO with a knee.
My second fight was a decision over Kunioku and the final match was
a decision over Shonie Carter
UA: What did it feel
like to win such a big title?
NM: I was always so
focused on doing my best that I never thought about winning or
losing. I never had doubted myself, but when I won, it all kinda hit
me at once. It was very emotional, unbelievable. It was something I
had always dreamed about; it was overwhelming.
UA: What has becoming
KOP done for you?
NM: It has completely
changed my life. If I hadn't won that tournament I probably wouldn't
be fighting fulltime now. I get a lot more recognition as a fighter.
I get to fight better fighters and it lets me stay more focused on
my training.
UA: Does Pancrase
treat you well as champion?
NM: Yes, but even
when I was staying in Japan last summer before I was the champion
they treated me really well. I'm not really sure if there's a
difference. Pancrase treats their fighters really well and being a
foreigner, everyone makes me feel at home.
UA: What is it like
living in the dojo in Japan?
NM: I love it. The
young boys cook and clean and do my laundry. I can eat as much as I
need-I get free protein and anything I need for my training. I live
in a tiny room and there's usually a couple other fighters living in
there as well, so that's a little uncomfortable.
UA: You have proven
yourself in Pancrase. How do you feel you rank among the rest of the
middleweights in the world?
NM: I don't feel that
there is anyone I can't beat. Even though I know that I am going to
improve and that there are certain areas that I need to improve
upon-and I will-even right now, I don't think that there is anyone I
can't beat. I also know, at the same time, that I can be beaten on
any given day, but I would never go into a fight thinking I was
going to lose.
UA: Are there any
fighters out there whom you would like to fight?
NM: Yes, I want a
rematch against Gil Castillo because he beat me by decision. He was
a very strong opponent and I think it would be good for me to fight
him again. Hayato Sakurai is a really good opponent. He is very
technical, has good standup, good takedowns, good groundwork, and
good submissions. I think that if there was any way I could fight
him in some kind of title fight, it would be one of the best matches
ever.
UA: In regards to
Castillo, how did that fight go?
NM: It was obviously
a close fight; it was actually a split decision. It depends on how
you score the match. I wasn't upset that they declared him the
winner because I knew I had fought well. I was always going for a
finish. He dominated on the positions a lot, though he didn't
attempt any finishes. I don't feel I need to make any excuses
because I fought well and he is a good opponent. There is no reason
for me to feel ashamed of that loss, but I would like to fight him
again because I know the mistakes I made, so I think I could finish
him.
UA: You have beaten
Shonie Carter and Yves Edwards who recently fought in the UFC. Do
you see yourself fighting in the octagon in the future?
NM: I think it's a
good possibility. I don't know when or even if it'll be soon. I
think it's the biggest thing in the U.S. right now and I live in
America, so it is a possibility.
UA: Is there anyone
you'd like to fight in the UFC?
NM: Whoever the champ
is, probably Dave Menne. Eventually I want to go up in weight and
fight people in that weight class.
UA: Gil Castillo
recently lost to Menne. Do you think you could beat him?
NM: Like I said, I
don't think there is anyone I couldn't beat. I think it would be a
good fight. I would be a little outweighed. I'm about 175 naturally
and I think he's about 185. I think technique-wise, I'd have him
standing and on the ground. He's pretty good standing up, but I
still think I would have the advantage.
UA: Do you consider
yourself more of a grappler or a striker?
NM: I don't think
there are many guys out there who are as good at submissions as me,
and the guys who are as good as me in submissions don't have the
standup that I have. I don't think many guys have the standup that I
have either, so I wouldn't consider myself one or the other. I have
been working on takedowns a lot because it has been one of my
weaknesses, so I wouldn't call myself a wrestler, but I wouldn't say
I'm more of a grappler or striker because I like to do both.
UA: Who do you train
with for striking?
NM: I train in Muay
Thai and boxing at Stars and at 3-D Martial Arts in Denver. Duane
Ludwig is one of my training partners. He has excellent technique
for Muay Thai and boxing. I have trained with guys in Japan who
fight K-1 or pro Muay Thai, and Duane is just as good if not better.
Most of the time he teaches me kickboxing techniques and I teach him
grappling.
UA: How does your
training in Japan differ from your training in the U.S.?
NM: In Japan you have
10-20 pro fighters all in one place at the same time. I spar six
days a week and I train with three different gyms. I train at a
striking gym with the famous kyokushin fighter Kurosawa. I train
with guys like Yoshiki Takahashi who fought Wallid Ismail in the
UFC, Yuki Kondo, and Kei Yamamiya (P-s Lab). They're fairly well
rounded; they can strike and wrestle. I train at Grabaka with [Sanae]
Kikuta san and [Yuki] Sasaki and [Akihiro] Gono. Kikuta won at Abu
Dhabi this year (87kg). They're mainly grapplers.
UA: Are there any
fighters in the US who you'd like to train with?
NM: There are lots of
fighters who I'd like to train with. Chuck Liddell is really good,
not just at striking but at the transitions between striking and
wrestling.
UA: What fighters did
you look up to when you started fighting?
NM: Frank Shamrock,
because he was really well rounded, and Bas Rutten for the same
reason.
UA: Bas Rutten was at
your Pancrase fight in October. He said he was there to see you. How
does it feel to see someone who you looked up to cheering you on?
NM: It was really
cool seeing him there; I had no idea he was going to be there. I
could hear him giving me advice during the fight and it helped.
UA: What did you say
to the crowd after you won that fight?
NM: Minasan konbawa,
tsugi wa Kunioku san onegai shimasu. Nihon daisuki doumo arigato
goziamasu.
(Good evening
everyone, next time it will be Mr. Kunioku. I love Japan! Thank you
very much)
UA: Have you learned
a lot of Japanese in your trips to Japan?
NM: I've gone five
times. I've learned basic words and phrases but I need to take a
class to really learn to speak Japanese.
UA: What differences
have you noticed about Japanese culture that you like?
NM: Well you can take
almost anything over here and notice differences. They are really
polite here and they think about the way their actions will affect
other people. In America it's more about how it's going to affect
me, which is good and bad, because in America people are more
independent. Also, it's really common to see a 26 year old person
living with their parents here, even a 35 year old, because unless
you're married, there's no reason to move out. They think about how
things affect each other.
UA: Do you like
living at home in the U.S.?
NM: It's good; my mom
helps me out. I don't have to worry about having food in the fridge.
I've lived on my own before but it gets lonely, so I like living
with my mom and my grandma.
UA: Do you consider
yourself close to your family?
NM: Yes, very close.
Both my parents have really helped me and supported me. If it wasn't
for them I wouldn't be where I'm at right now.
UA: What's it like
being famous in Japan?
NM: It's quite a bit
different because in Colorado no one really knows what NHB or MMA
is, and those who do know about it, only know because of the first
UFCs and they don't really understand where it's at now. In Japan,
even people who aren't fans understand what I do because it's just a
part of their culture.
UA: Are the fans
different?
NM: Yeah, you can
take the average person off the street in Japan and they will sit
and watch and look for techniques and things like that. If you take
a person off the street in America, they'll wonder what he's doing
and why he's not hitting him.
UA: Are you used to
being in the spotlight?
NM: Yeah, I'm still a
little shy so it's a little uncomfortable, but it's getting easier.
UA: What do you think
needs to be done in the U.S. to make MMA as popular as it is in
Japan?
NM: I think it's up
to the promoters and the fighters. Some of the American ground and
pound fighters are pretty boring to watch. I think it's up to the
fighters to learn how to do submissions and striking and make it a
spectator sport rather than just getting a decision win because you
took him down once each round and hit him in the ribs for 5 minutes.
Also, I think it's up to the promoters to make their shows exciting
to watch and not choose fighters just because they win, but because
of how they fight. That's what makes a fighter famous over here,
it's not whether he wins or loses, it's how he fights.
UA: Do you prefer
fighting in the ring or cage?
NM: I prefer the
ring, because this is a sport for the audience, I think that's the
most important thing. I don't mind the cage if you can push off the
fence, then it's good. You can use the ring in the same way, you can
pin people in the corners, but I think there's less chance of
getting hurt in the ring because it's more flexible.
UA: How does being a
fighter affect your social life?
NM: It's ok, I can't
go out every night and when I go out I can't drink, but I think
that's a good thing.
UA: What is the best
thing about being a fighter?
NM: I get to tell
girls I'm a fighter (laughs). I love Martial Arts and that's what I
do, so I guess the best part is that I do what I love. Fighting is
so challenging, there is so much to learn, so many styles and
strategies. You have to have endurance and strength, you have to be
aggressive and calm, you have to be an athlete. I don't think there
is any aspect of an athlete that mixed martial arts doesn't include.
UA: What do girls
think of it?
NM: They're surprised
at first, but I think they kinda like it. I've got two things going
for me in Japan, I'm American and I'm a fighter, back home I'm just
a fighter.
UA: What is the
hardest thing about MMA?
NM: It's physically
draining, it's hard work, it's tough to deal with all the injuries
all the time. I'm trying to gain weight so I have to eat all the
time. It's mentally draining too, always having to put in 100% every
day. This part, being in another country away from family and
friends is hard too.
UA: What are your
long term goals as a fighter?
NM: Long term, I want
to improve technique and my strength. I want to go up in weight
eventually. After fighting I want stay in this business, whether
it's teaching full time in my own gym, managing fighters, or being a
promoter. I think it would be a waste to spend so many years
training and not pass it on.
UA: If you could do
anything else besides mixed martial arts, what would it be?
NM: Away from MMA, I
would probably be some other kind of athlete. I was always involved
in sports; my parents would ask me what I wanted to be and I always
wanted to be whatever I was doing at the time whether it be soccer,
basketball, or whatever. When I went to college I never really knew
what I wanted to be so it felt like a waste of time, so I would say
I would still be an athlete of some kind.
UA: In your most
recent fight against Kunioku, you lost the title, how did you feel
about the decision and your performance?
NM: Well, of course
I'm upset about losing my title. I didn't really agree with the
decision, but sometimes that's the way it goes in this business. I
was more upset about that (my performance). I thought I was winning
so I started to play it safe and not take too many chances because I
was winning. Looking back it didn't matter, so I'm upset that I
didn't take more chances.
UA: You fought
Kunioku twice before and you won both times by close decisions. Did
you think if it went to a decision, they would give it to Kunioku?
NM: Actually I had
planned on finishing him. I didn't think it would go to a decision.
During the fight I thought that it might go to a decision, but I
thought I was going to win the decision.
UA: Since you had
fought Kunioku before, was it easy to prepare mentally for this
fight?
NM: Not really. I
knew he was a powerful and tricky opponent. Personally, I like to
know little about my opponent before the fight so that way I can do
all of my thinking in the ring.
UA: What does this
loss do for you?
NM: I can learn a lot
of things from it. I made a few technical mistakes that I have to
correct. I should never count on winning a decision. I should always
take chances no matter where we are in the match. I can look at it
as a good thing for me because now I have to work harder to get the
title back. It makes me hungry to train harder and get the title
again. Sometime in the beginning of next year I'm going to Brazil to
train with someone, but it's undecided still where it's going to be.
UA: At 22 years old
you are already a King of Pancrase, what do you want to do next?
NM: Make lots of
money!
UA: As a fighter, do
you have any goals that you haven't accomplished yet?
NM: Make lots of
money!